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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:39:34 -
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Airi Cho wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets. +1
The default location is in C:\ProgramData, but you will be able to choose where to put the cache.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:52:19 -
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Mac users that wish to try this out on Duality: We still have stability issues on the Mac, but if you head on to Duality, take a moment to enter the launcher settings and add /resManThreadCount=2 to the Startup Argument field.

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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:04:34 -
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Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed.
Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ?
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:29:38 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed. Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ? Can you please leave your dirty fingers from my filesystem. Stay where I allow you to through the install path!
Ummmm......Sure.
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:31:47 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed. Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ? Can you please leave your dirty fingers from my filesystem. Stay where I allow you to through the install path! Ummmm......Sure.
Although, I will admit that setting the cache-path is not yet in the installer. It can be set in the launcher settings.
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:49:09 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Harvey James wrote:so whats the point of this exactly? .. will it speed things up or down? The goal is that you won't notice any difference when playing the game. The primary driver for this change is to get people into the game quicker GÇô both new players, downloading a trial for the first time and existing players patching after major updates. There is less to download before you can enter the game, and the game itself will download the rest as it needs it. There's going to be a marketing challenge to make sure that new players don't go WTF??????? when they start up and don't see epic graphics right off the bat. Like huge, flashing red letters or something in the download ui.
Let's just say that we do not expect that to be the case.
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.16 17:54:32 -
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By the way, I really would encourage you to download the installer and point it to Duality and try this out. Try it and tell us what you think.
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Posted - 2014.12.17 15:54:29 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote: Furthermore, what do you refer to with caching the files on my drives? Will they slowly but steadily build up the game's folder to the same size as it is now as it gradually dls all the files, or will these cached filed be deleted with every restart of the client/computer?
No, it will not be deleted. Why would you even think that? In the end, it will be the same size. The word "cache". Good if it isn't the case.
OK, that's perhaps a source of confusion. We tend to use the word 'cache' for the download location in this context. But rest assured, if you have downloaded the resource once, you will not have to do so again next time you log in.
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.18 10:59:47 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:Now able to get on today - thanks for the account mirror (although why it came up with only showing "less than day" on the sub time is odd??) [..] Do you encounter problems with you current TQ client after trying it? I had to redownload >7GB and all my settings are gone  I don't want to set up everything again   Cant' play with default crap   Want play   I don't want to set up everything again   ...
Most unfortunate. All of our installers make a shortcut named 'EVE', no matter if they point to TQ, SISI or other test-servers.
The easiest way to avoid this is to, prior to running the Download-on-Demand installer, rename your EVE short-cut. The DoD installer will then make a new 'EVE' shortcut (might be a good idea to rename that one too).
Now, I realize these instructions are 'after-the-fact' for you, and my apologies for that. But you can take your current shortcut, and by changing the 'Target' and 'Start in' fields you will go back to your TQ setup.
(If you have used the default installation settings, the 'Target' field should have 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\eve.exe' and the 'Start in' field 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\')
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.18 11:01:13 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Part 3.
13) Made it to Jita. SC is now 1.72GB. Open Market browser - icons for in browser view for sections ripple in quickly. Look at buying a couple of different ships. Text info on each is immediately available. Hull icon graphic pops in after 3 to 5 seconds for each. Hull looks low res. Preview takes 15 seconds to load. Initial is medium res. Another few seconds popped to hi res, stretching open and zooming in the view confirms at hi res. Abaddon is smexy! :) Repeating the entire process for a Rhea - everything is much faster! hmmm.. I guess shared elements might have helped there.
14) Quit out of client. Launch another client session from launcher that I still had up - launcher locks up!!! This is the second time it has happened, first time I thought I had done something wrong on my end. BUG CCP. Quit out of launcher and restart again. Launch client, quick look at mail, market browse for Tornado, info check Tornado, preview ship (same loading delays as second trial of looking at a hull) . ESC, Quit Game. Use Launcher to start a client again - no problem, although as last time "logging in" screen is up much longer than typical for TQ. So, whatever is bugging out the launcher I would say it is something that takes time to show up.
15) Pop on a different toon. Check PI - open neocom ui for planet selection, double click first planet in list to invoke planet view. Takes 50 seconds for planet view to load. Double click an extractor to program a cycle - everything comes up immediately. Extractor head movement works just fine. Double click select a different planet to view (first was a Barren) and encounter 15 second delay with black screen. Try a Lava - black screen for 25 seconds. The little unit 3-D hovering icons (extractor, factory, advanced factory, command center, etc) all are there immediately.
16) Inventory - Randomly checking through a large inventory through Personal Assets, found a bunch of Decryptors with "no messageID: 296725" tags on them for item name and similar 296724 for group name. As I scroll through the asset list for this one hanger it takes 10 to 15 secs to load icons for each page. Some come singly, others in batch. There were 156 item stacks that I scrolled through. Opened an "Inventory" UI - it would take around 5 seconds for each container view to populate item icons. One container of 102 items took over 20 seconds to populate the T2 BPC icons. This is all for the graphics only. I could work with each icon immediately (info, open to Industry, etc) without issue.
SC size check: 1.72GB Running out of things to try and been at it long enough for now. I'd say it is all working pretty darn well for this stage!!
Edit 1: PS Shut down client, since it had been a while tried to kick off client from launcher again - which froze. So definitely a launcher up time related bug that is hard core.
Thanks for the excellent feedback! There are definitely a few things here we will be taking a closer look at.
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CCP Maxwell
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:05:48 -
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Blue Harrier wrote:This is my second test with the new downloader (I posted my first test in the wrong place), this is on my laptop over WiFi so loading times were slower as expected.
The initial small download of the installer went fine. I then made a folder on my D: drive ready for the installation (so I could browse to it) Ran the installer and browsed to the folder
The launcher downloaded and installed as expected Adjusted the path in the desktop icon to point to Duality Ran the launcher and came across the first problem, you cannot pause the download so you can change the resource path location before the download commences
Really the launcher should ask at this point where you would like the shared files stored, with copious details of what is being download and the suggested locations for the files, or should pick up the drive letter where the launcher is installed and use this as the default drive for the shared files.
Went in to the launcher settings and changed the path to D:\Eve Shared Files Closed the launcher to prevent further downloading
Restarted the launcher and checked it was downloading the files to the correct folder on D: (it was)
While the download continued I browsed to the \ProgramData folder (normally hidden) and deleted the already downloaded files in the \CCP folder (only 38Mb).
Once complete I logged into the game (slight delay on getting to the selection screen but not excessive), clicked on my character and again a slight delay on entering the game (not excessive).
The longest time for me was setting everything up because on the laptop the FPS has taken a huge hit and even with everything turned down I can only get 30FPS where before I could get 60FPS. Might be time for a new laptop LOL.
Changed ship from Helios to Procurer which seemed to go pretty smooth, undocking was a bit GÇÿjitteryGÇÖ as resources loaded (somewhat expected as the laptop is struggling). Scanned for an ice belt, flew to belt, extracted 5 blocks of ice and re-docked all seemed fine
Total size of folders; D:\Eve on Duality\Eve 314Mb, D:\Eve Shared Files .99 Gb (the same as on my main PC.
Hope this helps, regards Blue.
Thanks.
There is still work to be done on the installer/launcher regarding where you choose to keep your downloaded resources.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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